tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856293244916346338.post8335837148099662226..comments2024-03-27T16:42:13.561+08:00Comments on Daybreak's Bell: Manila hostage crisisQhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14369771267899546737noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856293244916346338.post-8301515027872921952010-09-07T10:20:03.489+08:002010-09-07T10:20:03.489+08:00@ radiant:
Sure, most of us are not professional o...@ radiant:<br />Sure, most of us are not professional or knowledgeable when it comes to hostage situations, but really, once you read up on some you will find out quite a lot of flaws there. Assault rifles are not for narrow space situations, there are no frame charges or ladders to aid in assault, and police took way too long to break into the bus etc. There are a lot of reasonable things you can point out there. You can read up more on places like BBC News should you be interested.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11069616" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11069616</a><br /><br />Hong Kong is a small city afterall, so I think even though the general population may not seem caring on daily basis, they will respond once a crisis comes before them. People unite together. Not only ethnically Chinese Hongkongers went up on demonstrations on the dealing of the hostage situation, local Filipino workers, as well as other ethnic minorities stood up tp it too. An unusual moment, but it does say something about Hongkongers do care for each other afterall.<br /><br />@ Hongkonger:<br />The attitude seems kinda mixed towards Filipino domestic workers or just the general population. Some emaphasising not to blame on the people but rather on the police and the government, but others argued that many are to blame as well (taken pictures of the bodies from the coffins, posing and smiling for photos at the scene etc). There has been reported issues where some workers are already been fired or affected due to their employers being outraged by this event, but it is not sure whether they are valid or not.<br /><br />@ Robostrike:<br />Philippines is not exactly a stable country overall, which is a pity. From a developed country point of view one might think the police should have a lot of experience facing so much hostage situations, but here this is not the case at all. It does say something about the police and the government there.<br /><br />The guy who lost most of his family goes to school near you? Man this really is a small world... I just hope he can recover from such loss, because losing a whole family in an incident where one feels it could be avoided has a much greater impact than losing by accidents or natural disasters.<br /><br />@ samejima:<br />I think many people did not like the attitude the president has approached towards the crisis (moreso outraged by his statement in the aftermath). But the government and police do have a lot of parts that could have done better. The thing is, could it ever be improved in the future?Qhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14369771267899546737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856293244916346338.post-53332771690737946322010-09-04T11:42:50.091+08:002010-09-04T11:42:50.091+08:00This is why I always think my country is really Fk...This is why I always think my country is really Fk'd up. I don't blame the current President (Benigno Aquino Jr.), not his fault but the government is fk'd up!samejimahttp://uselessthoughts.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856293244916346338.post-90815930912298062202010-09-02T00:35:53.716+08:002010-09-02T00:35:53.716+08:00Not sure if you checked out the latest "Tuesd...Not sure if you checked out the latest "Tuesday Report" on this issue. Apparently it's very common for terrorist attacks like this to happen in Philippines happening around 100ish a year. The gov't thought it was going to be easy and took it really relaxed.<br />The son from the family that lost 2 daughters and husband actually goes to a school near where I live...Robostrikehttp://robostrike.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856293244916346338.post-47217531876145882552010-09-01T04:26:22.729+08:002010-09-01T04:26:22.729+08:00@quentinlau:
What's your take on the local Ho...@quentinlau:<br /><br />What's your take on the local Hong Kong atmosphere on the attitude towards Filipino workers in Hong Kong? I've been reading a fair amount of coverage from media outlets telling the public not to express their rage at the wrong targets, though no actual reports of any such misdirected rage itself (and thank heavens for that.) <br /><br />@Radiant:<br /><br />>None of us are really professional or knowledgeable enough to make a call on it, so any sort of comments/arguments/debates people have had over this incident are really rather pointless.<br /><br />You don't have to be a professional chef, or taster, or food critic, etc. to know if something tastes like shit. <br /><br />Likewise, a rescue attempt aired live, dragging on for over 11 hours, with local police taking over 1.5 (!) hours to enter the bus, with police lacking proper protective gear and getting shot at - you don't need to be a policeman or professional crime fighter to tell that incompetence abounded.<br /><br />Following the tragedy, the local Philippines police at first prevented Hong Kong authorities from entering the bus and crime scene to conduct their own investigation, but after widespread outcry they finally relented. <br /><br />And, Hong Kong people are reeling from the loss. They need some way to express their grief. I would argue that comments/arguments/debates are totally necessary - not just for them, but for the truth of how such a shocking display of incompetence could have occurred, and how to prevent such things in the future.HongKongernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856293244916346338.post-23804504401569329022010-09-01T02:44:32.399+08:002010-09-01T02:44:32.399+08:00This was a sad day indeed. I am really disappointe...This was a sad day indeed. I am really disappointed with the outcome, and I do agree that much of the bloodshed could very well have been avoided.<br /><br />In terms of what could have been done better, who knows? None of us are really professional or knowledgeable enough to make a call on it, so any sort of comments/arguments/debates people have had over this incident are really rather pointless.<br /><br />I wasn't aware of the reaction in Hong Kong during the incident's live coverage, so from the sounds of it, it almost seemed as show-stopping as Michael Jackson's death turned localized.<br /><br />Thanks for providing a first-hand account of the local atmosphere.Radianthttp://radiantdreamer.netnoreply@blogger.com